Post by leapnlineman on Jan 14, 2011 17:30:23 GMT -1
Fletcher you really need to read Jim's report from beginning to end at least twice as I have. Somethings just were not clear on the first reading. Here is an excerpt from that report about the likely effects of a stocking program for largemouths on Allatoona:
Even though large numbers of young largemouth bass may hatch-out in a given year there may not be enough places (habitat) for them to all survive. We would therefore say habitat is a limiting factor. This would also apply for stocking largemouth bass. If the habitat is not there the stocked fish simply will not survive.
Also as far a hybrids and stripers being the problem once you read through the report it becomes evident that habitat is much more the problem. And you have to remember that the hybrids do not reproduce, so without the stocking program for hybrids and stripers those fish would soon disappear from Allatoona. Which in my opinion would be a shame. And if the hybrids and stripers were not in Toona then even more of the Green Fish would be harvested and futher decrease the green fish population.
Post by occasionalfisher on Jan 14, 2011 17:55:39 GMT -1
I agree with Ray and Mike, but I think there is a simple fact we overlook. Meat fisherman, whether they are camping for a week or coming a few times a week to stock up the freezer take more of a toll on largemouth bass that they will spots. I am talking about bank fisherman mostly, because the areas they fish in most cases are more largemouth haunts than spotted bass haunts. Closer to shore all year long, in pockets and on the small points just outside of pockets, prime largemouth terrotory on any lake. A slot limit , in my opinion, would do nothing to stop the harvesting of fish in the slot over or below the slot on people fishing for meat from shore. I see two reasons for this, one is because unless they fish near a ramp with updated limit signs they will never know about the slot limit. The second thing are the people who fish without licence already and have no worries about getting caught with illegal sized fish because there is no money for the DNR to check like they should be doing. I have met Jim once, and he works his tail off and I have all the respect for him I can have because he does care about the lake. But there is just not enough DNR personel to make the lake safe, much less to enforce creel limits and size or slot limits if they were implemented. That having been said it is a public lake and I like having the ability if I want to to go and catch fish and take them home and eat them, even though I never do that, I could if I wanted too and at a public lake I think that is a good thing. I think a largemouth stocking program could help now if they stocked them in places that can support the fish. Stamp Creek, McCaskey, Clark, Sweetwater, Clear, Illinois, and up the Etowah have enough structure and cover to support largemouth with one change in how the lake is run, that is the massive drawdowns. The drawdowns I think do more to hurt the largemouths more than anything else because any growing cover, grass, bushes etc that can grown in water are out of water so much each year. That having been said, the tree cutting is helping I have caught more largemouths in the last year as anytime before on Toona.
I do not believe the White fish interfere in any way with the Green fish, have you seen how much bait there is in this lake in the 1 - 3 inch range. More than enough to go round. I do have an issue with the type of Hybrid they stock, seems overrun with tiny white fish, there used to be many more larger Hybs and Stripers, but not now. But this is all another topic.
With respect to the Green fish, would it be possible to establish indigenous weedbeds in certain, more flat/silty areas of Toona? Or does the large water draw preclude this?
Lo the angler. He riseth in the morning and upsetteth the whole household. Mighty are his preparations. He goeth forth with great hope in his heart and when the day is far spent, he returneth, smelling of strong drink, and the truth is not in him.